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Spike Lee Rips Tyler Perry

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Spike Lee had an interview with Ed Gordon on Our World with Black Enterprise scheduled to air this weekend. In the interview he complained about “coonery and buffoonery” and both of Tyler Perry’s shows “Meet the Browns” and “House of Payne,” comparing them to characters from minstrel shows.

“We’ve had this discussion back and forth. When John Singleton [made 'Boyz in the Hood'], people came out to see it. But when he did ‘Rosewood,’ nobody showed up. So a lot of this is on us! You vote with your pocketbook, your wallet. You vote with your time sitting in front of the idiot box, and [Tyler Perry] has a huge audience. We shouldn’t think that Tyler Perry is going to make the same film that I am going to make, or that John Singleton or my cousin Malcolm Lee [would make]. As African-Americans, we’re not one monolithic group, so there is room for all of that. But at the same time, for me, the imaging is troubling and it harkens back to ‘Amos n’ Andy.’”

“Each artist should be allowed to pursue their artistic endeavors, but I still think there is a lot of stuff out today that is coonery and buffoonery. I know it’s making a lot of money and breaking records, but we can do better. … I am a huge basketball fan, and when I watch the games on TNT, I see these two ads for these two shows (Tyler Perry’s “Meet the Browns” and “House of Payne”), and I am scratching my head. We got a black president, and we going back to Mantan Moreland and Sleep ‘n’ Eat?

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  • Spike Lee is out of line. This is one reason we as a people can't get it together. His comments sound like a hater's comments.Did he forget his 1st garbage movie "She's Gotta Have It". That was pure trash with no meaning. Instead of critisizing a brilliant brother, he needs to meet with Tyler Perry and get some advice from him. The only reason his movies were blockbusters was because of Denzel Washington!!! Face it Spike. You're wrong and owe this man an apology. Stop hating. Get where Tyler Perry is and then maybe you can talk. You're not even a good actor (Mookie). Get real.
    • The difference is, after "She's Gotta Have It," Lee made films like Crooklyn, Do the Right Thing, Malcom X, whereas after "Madea's Family Reunion," Tyler Perry keeps making more Madea films without actually showing any progress as a filmmaker.
  • Tyler Perry movies are a shame. The REAL problem is that we as a people cant even see that this is a terrible depiction of us as a community. Plaid coats and pinstripe pants, men dressing up as loud mouth ladies and saying its okay because they are "supposedly" strong women? Poor english foolish movies titles like "I Can Do Bad All by Myself," are you kidding me? Yeah we are working, but at what cost?
    • At least Tyler Perry, in addition to employing unknown black actors, character honestly depicts all aspects of the spectrum, not just "racial" stereotypes. His characters are educated, professionals, wealthy, illeterate, blue collar, poor, etc. If he shows a womanizer or "bad" man, he will also show a "good" man. Through comedy he tells a story of the true human spitirt, forgiveness and the beauty of the wins "grace & mercy". He uses film as medium to tell inform and encourage people beyond their circumstances or mistakes. If what he does is bafoonery, what about shows like "Martin" or "Fresh Prince" or "In Living Color" or "sanford & Son" or "The Jeffersons" or "Good Times"... or movies like "House Party" or "Boys In The Hood" or "Friday" or "Barbershop" or "Booty Call". I could on and on.
  • Let's keep it real, Tyler Perry does. I allow my children to watch all his movies and sitcoms and then I ask them "what was the messasge" and each time they are able to give it to me and for a parent that is "power" my children are ages 10 and 11. Do you think at this age they can grasp what Spike Lee puts on screen. The answer is no, not yet. Me as a parent have to focus the NOW.





































    Momma
    • I get that you are a Mom, but these are not positive images on his TV shows, or movies. Your children will subconsciously compare these images( as all blacks do with black images. it is one of the reasons we think so poorly about ourselves) of blacks with the images they see of whites in other TV shows and films, and rightly feel that the blacks displayed, are dressed act and carry themselves like fools in comparison to a white film or TV show. Just because Perry throws in a message at the end of his films doesn't mean the film or TV show was overall a positive experience. Also your children may not understand the overall message of a Spike film, that doesn't mean they wouldn't benefit from the experience and pick up positive things from his work about black people, also it is good to stretch their abilities anyway, they may end up understanding more than you give them credit for.
    • Arron, I have to get with BBW on this. Raise your kids now, not later. OTOH, maybe the problem is not the image of Blacks that Tyler Perry is promoting. The problem is the image of Blacks being promoted by the rest of the media. I say STAND UP AGAINST THAT.
  • I THINK WE ARE AT A STANDOFF HERE.....WE JUST NEED TO GIVE BOTH OF THESE BROTHERS A MOVIE SUBJECT OR STORY LINE AND SEE WHO COULD MAKE A BETTER MOVIE.

    ALTHOUGH I SUPPOSE ANYTHING WITH TYLER PERRY'S NAME ON IT IS JUST GOLD AT THE BOX OFFICE. SO SPIKE, LET'S PRETEND YOU'RE IN A SPORTS GAME AND LET'S SEE WHO WOULD BECOME THE VICTOR.

    IN THE END WE ALL WOULD BE WINNERS FOR HAVING TWO TALENTED PEOPLE MAKE MOVIES WE WOULD BE PROUD TO SEE.
  • While I can appreciate both Spike Lee and Tyler Perry for becoming two of the earliest black directors, I certainly agree that we, as black entertainers, should and can raise the bar. Perhaps Spike Lee is not the ideal person to criticize Tyler, as they are both black directors. Maybe Spike should have left that criticism to the critics or other the general public. I think to whom much has been given, much is required. There is a responsibility to provide higher quality entertainment that reflects black people and that is either targeting black people. Yes, as much as I support Tyler, I do think it's time, given all of his success, that he graduates into a higher standard of character building, story telling, new plots, and even a broader audience. We as black people are not all Christian, dogmatic, violent, abused, poor, heterosexual, etc. I understand that he claims he has to use baits to get black people to show up, but baiting at who's expense? There comes a time when those baits begin to offend or misrepresent or stereotype black people, and that's why it's important to have balance. There's a responsibility to the sensitive situations of the black community as a whole. Young people need to see more - a variety of plots and stories. And now that Tyler has his own studio, he has a real opportunity to lead us to growth, rather than the same old same old. It may have been better for Spike to allow others to say what needed to be said to get the dialogue going because there is a lot of merit to what he said, but I just hope that it has not destroyed a potential, professional relationship between these two successful black directors.
  • I agree with Spike....We have to understand that everyone is not going to take the struggle serious...a money making opportunity is just that..how many real men would dress up like a woman to make jokes...how many mothers would be proud of that ..how many sons would be proud to say that's my father dressed like a granny if her were not making millions..Funny is funny, sad is sad, if my son were dressed like a woman I would spend most of my waking hours trying to figure out what I did wrong..and why had GOD forsaken me...unfortunately in this society where it seems everything goes, everything goes, I am not sure we understand that...this is not just something on TV or in the movies...it is imaging and folks believe what they see...And believe it or not, thee is a real woman some place who is able to play the role Tyler dresses like a woman to play....but then we have to appeal the the folks who are cross dressers huh? even if we sell our soul...our history, our heritage...our pride...the old mighty dollar PEACE
    • how many men would dress as a woman to make jokes? hmmm, lets see....flip wilson, milton berle, martin lawrence, jerry lewis, wesley snipes and patrick swayze, jack lemmon and tony curtis, eddie murphy. I'm willing to bet that their mothers are pretty darn proud of their sons. In Shakespeare's time, all the parts in a play, male and female, were played by males.



      Wearing a dress for a role does not connote a lack of morals nor a lack of good parenting.



      i DO hope that tyler will find someone else to play the role of "Madea" only so that he can fully devote himself to the other aspects production company: writing, directing, and producing (Precious).
  • I agree as Maury's guests would put it 99.9% percent with Spike, I feel TPs shananigans have taken black people back, but the .1% cant hate on the loot TP is clockin. I have a Ol Skool mentality though, like hip hop I love lyrical substance and bangin beats nowadays most people just like bangin beats and garbage lyrics
  • i understand were spike is coming from but at the same time tyler's movies are meant to be funny to draw you in and you also get a message from it. seriously how many young teenage kids you know out there that want to look at a serious and deep movie all the time not many they like funny stuff so tyler has to do what he can to get their attention and it works.
    • Now that's real talk kimmie
  • I totally disagree with what spike lee is saying. Now dont get me wrong i have seen spike lee's movies and he had a very strong story line about the blacks and the struggles that we have gone through. But tyler perry also is doing the same thing. What alot of people dont see from commericals is what a strong story line Mr. Perry has. Every black family in america can not live like the huxtable's, but there are families where the mother is doing drugs or the father. What you don't see is that the things that children had to through in the story line. I believe that Mr.Lee should really sit down and watch the show instead of just judging it from a commerical, because see the commerical only shows you the funny parts to actually get some people to watch it and once they do they will see that most of Mr. Perry's show deal with every day life in an every day family and not just black families can be in anyone's family. Topics like husband cheating on wives or mixed relationships or even drugs. SO MR. LEE NOT TO KNOCK YOUR GAME >>> WATCH A COUPLE OF SHOWS BEFORE YOU JUDGE. BECAUSE REMEMBER PEOPLE DID THE SAME TO YOU AND YOU HAD TO MAKE IT KNOWN.
  • I understand completely what Spike is saying. He, along with others, made films to enlighten. It wasn't comedy nor was it filled with cross-dressing. They were thought provoking topics. It seems with the industry the only way we can 'hit it big' in hollywood is if we look like clowns or can do a nice jingle. Jiggaboos. Remember? Just the same as Lil Wayne is allowed the fame he has now. Black people has always had a problem with keepin up with foolishness. When it comes to serious topics, we fail to pay attention. When its point blank reasoning of how we can strengthen our community, we find excuses to justify our non involvement. Even more interesting, Spike is talking to Ed Gordon on a black program while Tyler is speaking on 60 minutes. See my point? It's as if the slave is running back to the house to tell massah the smart negro you hate in the field is running his mouth again. Our community need to stop supporting the nonsensical. Our children walk around in attire that suggest the new suggested black. The acceptance of this coonery. I see them in moon boot looking shoes wearing chains that hang from their pockets to the back belt loops. In my time, you were looked upon as being white and not staying true to black. We must remember that racism still exist. Plans to descimate our black race still exist. The trick is, they no longer hunt us. They give the weapons to our misguided leaders to spread the poison fruit to the flock of their own people so that we may consume and pass it to our children.
    • you know what realy ticks me off and is SAD is most people rides with tyler'..will it makes me think what NEWS our we black people are listening to UTUBE BLACKS IN THE BOULE'S he is the man who will were the dress utube dave chappale he wont were the ''dress''he was the bizz when he was paying for his own plays BUT NOW LIONS GATE OWNS HIM ''WHITE JEW BOYS'' WAKE UP YOU MIGHTY RACE ..YOU BEEN FOOLED
  • I believe what Spike is trying to say is, 'What do we get from this?' I too agree that Perry is putting down black people. He offers the same stereotypes of loud obnoxious black women taking up for "I had it enough" black women and going through the same exhausting stories. I respect Tyler Perry 100%. He just simply isn't innovative. You can't necessarily declare what's the next Spike Lee Joint but we all know what Tyler's next project is. Case and Point.
  • WHY do we continue to down grade each other instead of embracing each others' God given talents. If you don't like it don't watch it. Spike Lee has the opportunity to make any kind of movie or show he wants WHY don't he do that instead of critizing another Black Man. There is enough to go around for everyone to get theirs! Not everyone approved of "She Got to Have It" or "School Daze" but we supported him!
  • Spike is right and Tyler is right...Tyler has every right to make what ever movie or tv show he wants, but it is time for Tyler Perry to not change but evolve. Ok! he did what he had to do get his foot in the door and now he has respect in Hollywood. It's time for him to more thought provoking movies and especially tv show when their is next to no black drama on tv. My thing is he can still make comedies, but with more thought about can his characters and how they may look to other groups outside the black community and in the black community.
  • Who stands to gain the most from this "conflict"?



    Please consider the following...

    http://www.caeringsolutions.com/CausesofConflict.html



    RM
  • Tyler needs to step up his gam a lot. He can start with cutting out the pot smoking from the Madea movies. Those sceens never add anything to the movies. In fact they are only distractions. As for Mr. Brown, can you say Steppin' Fetchit?



    A white director could never get away with these demeaning depictions.



    And don't tell me that it's OK because he make's a lot of money doing it too. Luther Campbell said that same sh*t when 2 Live Crew was corrupting Hip-Hop.



    We deserve better from Tyler and from Hip-Hop.
    • My sentiments exactly!( I posted a similar response below.) The rap game (NOT hip hop) has regressed, not evolved, and I think the same can be said for Tyler Perry flicks...

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