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It’s been one hell of a week for Anthony Mackie.

I was scheduled to interview Mackie about his new movie Black or White on Monday, Martin Luther King Day. I walked into the shoot location, and he was sitting down at the receptionist desk with a several women catering to him.

One massaging his back as he has casual conversation, while the others were assigned to make sure he kept his schedule. He was doing live TV later that day so his schedule was tight.

As my team arrived I prepped with photographer Pete Monsanto, who I booked to take still images of the actor, I originally wanted to have him throw that video game joystick as to say no more games. But due to time constraints we had to improvise. The conversation at the office flowed naturally, it was very relaxed, everyone knew everyone, we joked about things that men joke about: Deflate gate, his beloved New Orleans Pelicans, and other things.

The mood was relaxed, chill. Old friends catching up, but really just people you know of, talking to each other again.

Then it was time to get the ball rolling. Mackie went into his first interview which was scheduled for ten minutes but seemed to take much longer. By the time it was done his publicist told me we now had 10 minutes to do an interview and a photo shoot because he had to be at a live TV taping.

As I tossed half of my questions, Mackie and The Grio’s reporter Chris conversed about the 20-minute conversation they just had. I didn’t know then, neither did The Captain America star, but that interview would get him in deep trouble with Black Twitter.

He’s been facing criticism after he made a comment about dreadlocks leading to racial profiling. Prior to talking to me Mackie told The Grio:

“Like my nephew wanted to grow dreadlocks. I’m like fine, I’ll sit you down and I’ll watch The First 48 with you and everybody you see on that show, that’s doing something wrong, they’re black dudes with dreadlocks. So, do you want to be seen as part of the problem or do you want to be an individual?”

“Let’s just say you have locks and you walking down the street. The police pull you over and say you fit the description of somebody. You start yelling and arguing with the cops. Next thing you know you pressed up against the wall going to jail for something you’re not even involved in just because you look like somebody and you don’t know how to handle yourself.”

Well Damn!

During our quick chat Mackie discussed what he learned from working with Kevin Costner, and how he applied those lessons while filming Avengers. Check it out below.

PHOTO CREDIT: / Pete Monsanto

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