This is the problem with African American's they do not support each other , every other race support their own kind and that is why they are so successful.... I'm so embarrassed that Spike Lee would stoop to this level and try to degrade TP , Spike Lee need to back track on where he came from and reflect on it .... I believe he is just bitter that he is no longer needed/wanted in the movie industry, he talk about TP movies and plays , what about his flop of films he made 90 % of them were not worth the money it took to produce them , but we as black people gave him a chance ( so Spike Lee lay off of TP and give the man a break and let his light shine).

Spike Lee talk about how he degrade his people what about some of the garbage he made, he degraded his own kind as well making them call girls and drug addicts , and he himself played the father of a bastard child in one of his movies, and what about the riot that broke out caused by the blacks in his movie , if that is not taking it back to the 60's , Spike before you open your mouth to try to degrade someone , look at your own past ..... instead of degrading him if you were a real man, you would have spoke to him face to face and try to put your input into what you felt he was doing wrong and could make his films better , but on that note I love TP and will follow him until he call it quits so your opinion is just like and ear ( everyone have one) but it don't make what you say right ... TP is an actor, producer and entertainer and for those of you who don't like him , hell don't pay to see him then there will be no problem and you will not have to give your opinion about him ....on Spike's issue of TP wearing a dress I can name a lot of wonderful actors that wore a dress at one time or another , to name a few ( Martin Lawrence, Wesley Snip and the great patrick Swayze, Miguel Nunez etc ) so go sit down in your little rocking chair and rock your life away.

If you are 70 years old in 2010 you got a higher and more intense dosage of overt racism when you were growing up. If you are 60,50,40 and so on,in the year 2010 you got a different intensity of racism. I run a racism discussion group and what I find is people think the definfition of racism is prejudice, discrimination and bigotry. Also as you try to have a conversation about racism people become rude and interupt you when you are speaking. Racism is about competition. It is when one group tries to gain all of the wealth and resources and once they get the resouces they hurt or injure other people to gain more and to sustain what they have gained. Perry can only feel racism to the point of his expression,same goes for Spike. Perry's reaction to racism through his actors lean towards an era in time that did not show black people being serious. Almost Uncle Remus like. He is a comedian. And Spike deals with it by trying to show the ethnic history and then the solution, without so much of the laughter. Integration created hyper individualism in blacks and is not the cure for racism. Nationalism is the cure for racism. We are going to have blacks in the position Spike and Perry are in but what we should do is to set a national agenda for blacks to look at where we were, where we are and were we are going. To see if what we embarke on helps us as a people or does it hurt us as a people or does there product create hyper individualism.

Uh, Speck Lee, uh, uh, Speck Lee, me and Madea are sitting up here taking a toke of the ickiest of the wicky and watching one of your films. You are floating and we are floating. Onliest difference is we come down from the high, you don't. We ain't go lie you had a few good ones about a few decades ago, but every man got to know when to say when.

Hellar, uh, Hellar, Speck Lee. I heard you been calling me a coon and a bufoon. Didn't my boy Clint Eastwood tell you to take a walk. Speck, you better listen to your elders.We didn't get this old sitting around twittling our fingers. Speck, I sat through a couple of your films, and I use the term 'film' very loosely. and heck, I didn't agree with your characters. But I didn't say nuthin' I thought you was just going through a mid life crisis or better yet a middle of the road crisis. One of your films made me call Cora up and ask if you was having a nervous breakdown. You know which one it was. So you best leave me and Brown be. Whosenever you be, you better get on one of your trademark 'dolly's' and float your out-of-date self out of here.

It's time to congratulate and not hate, Speck.

Thank you Spike Lee. I am sick of Tyler Perry's negative depiction of black women....

I agree with Spike. I am so tired of the predictable elementary themes being produced time and time again. TP, among others, has taken our Black Church, our Choirs, and our Ministers and reduced them to mockery. Now what was once once sacred appears in Burger King and MacDonald's commercials! Just once I would really like to see something produced by TP that is thought provoking. Is comedy, profanity, loud-talking, giggling, eyerolling, shucking and jiving, typical sterotypes, etc all that we have to offer? Does being rich mean you have to sell out your culture? Perhaps what is portrayed in TP's pictures is that to which he is accustomed. There is so much more to our community than what I've seen. So many of our young have no sense of how we've struggled to get to this point in American society and none of TP's movies help us to understand. Any teenager can come up with his themes and given the resources, could probably produce a movie of the same caliber.

I agree with Spike 100%. Tyler is a liar and a modern day pickpocket who has made millions off of people who really can't afford to go see his plays but because he has cloned the phrase "Let's show Hollywood we can stick together" we take our last little money and pay to see his movie or his play! I'm sick of it! What message is my male child being taught by looking at a grown man run around in a dress? He is no role model for African Americans! He is just a lucky person who got two other fags to invest in his plays and WE fell for the game! It's sad

I'm so embarrassed that Spike Lee would let his jealousy out weigh his better judgement. Maybe Spike needs to start making better movies than what he has put out in the past because alot of your movies have been boring and very uninteresting, please don't be upset because his TP success has been ten thousand times better than yours observe and ask yourself what you can do to make the movies you come up with more insightful and make them were people will actually want to see them I personally have always said i wouldn't pay money to see anything you made because you've always had someone in your movie that was a drug addict or some other undesireable and never anyone positive you had only one movie that was of any use amd that was Malcolm X so please Spike fix your own self before you try to down those that are doing better than you

I agree with Spike. Yes, Tyler is making money, but that should not be the measure of success--drug dealers make bank...

Lee is dead on. I never really thought about it but as a latin I see George Lopez constantly do the same thing. While these stereotypes may have merit the brush both of these artist are painting with are extremely broad and dangerous.

I consider myself to be an admirer of both of the work of both gentlemen and I'm in 100% agreement with those who see this as a nothing more than counter-productive, self-loathing jealousy. Coonery and buffoonery are certainly not new to the realm of black entertainment and Spike has certainly portrayed more than his share of black crackheads, homocidal thugs, shiftless/irresponsible absentee fathers, oversexed women, elderly alcoholics, drug kingpins, and various other walking talking stereotypes. TP at least offers a measure of balance in every film. And here's a little food for thought that might help Spike out if he's looking for a little more parity at the box office: Try as I might, I can't recall any Spike Lee film that has as its protagonist, a complex, positive, black female character; one that most black female movie goers would be likely to relate to. In Spike Lee films that did happen to have black women as central characters, they were usually portrayed as over-sexed freakazoids, phone sex operators, stuck-up/cliquish/submissive college coeds and various other one dimensional stereotypes. Nearly every Tyler Perry film celebrates strong, beautiful, complex, relatable sistas who have to fight to overcome serious issues in their lives. Notably, black women make up a substancial majority of TP's audiences.

Tyler Perry is a well paid black exploitation master. Spike Lee is 1,000% on the money. Tyler Perry's movies wouldn't be so bad if we had more diversity of the images of people of color in Hollywood. But it seems that anytime in the rare occasion that we "finally get a shot" on the big screen, we are relegated to shucking, jiving, hip holding, church singing, thugging, or Oprah's favorite - being someone's slave in early America. Come on. give me a break all ready with this small minded make YD happy coonery crap. Tyler has the resources and credibility to produce more diverse images of our people. Just because you're financially successful at something doesn't make it right. Heck drug dealers and the crooks on Wall Street are financially well off but it doesn't make their deeds right does it. And don't think slipping some warm and fuzzy message in the end makes it right. For those of us that aren't simple minded Tyler, you need to come stronger than that. Tyler please give us something other than images of suffrage, black pain, cooning, buffooning and slave talking. Give our kids an alternative image to imulate.

Thanks Spike ... Brooklyn Represent!!!!

Look, we all have choices and opinions. Whether you like Tyler films or not is up to that individual. I do not support "buffoonery" under any circumstance. I do not see Tyler's films in that light at all. Besides the humor, Tyler's films have many messages such as love, faith, struggles, and so on. Ok Spike, you call Tyler's work "buffoonery", but what about his work without Madea or Mr. Brown? Can Tyler get credit for those and credit for his other accomplishments? Spike is not the man on top any more. Although he paved the way, in comparison, can you say Spike has accomplished as much as Tyler?



Spike, if you can do better, than stand up and give the black community what you think we need and what we depict? Since you are the expert on watch the black community put your money where your mouth is and feed the black community with the “correct” film(s)?

Well, well, well. This is truly something. It sounds like Spike has a bit of envy in his spirit. I have watched Tyler Perry's work throughout the years and many aspects of his film does relate to some of us. There are many films that can be put into the same “buffoonery category” black, white, indifferent and so on. “Dumb/ignorant” films are everywhere and done by everyone, if Spike wants to talk about “Amos & Andy”.



I just do not get why some of the black community is so hard on the subject. Do they fail to realize that these things have and still can be found in some black communities? Although some have not had these experiences as depicted in Tyler's film, there people that do. Those people are the ones that can relate to Tyler's work. Therefore, if it is not the culture you have experienced and can not relate to than just disregard the films.



It is as though, some are so ashamed that they want to pretend these experiences has not and does not exist. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but Spike clearly sounds a bit bitter to me. What has Spike done lately? Some of Spike’s films were not that great. He has done some "questionable" films and many of his films are black based as well. Both Tyler and Lee produced and wrote black films, but form different experiences and perspectives. I believe the both should respect each other work whether they support it or not.

I think this has more to do with jealousy than legitimate criticism.It happens all the time.Tyler has taken Lee's place as the #1 black film maker.